I was all geared to write a great post on modesty, and then my sister gave me a link to this blog and I think this recent high school graduate articulates my thoughts on the subject way better than I ever could:
http://bighouseinthelittlewoodsblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/very-last-modesty-article-ever.html
But if you don't want to click, here's what I think about that hot topic of modesty (no pun intended!).
First, a quick explanation of where I used to be with modesty.
Those who were raised really conservatively will know what I mean when I talk about "dresses only". I wouldn't say our family was a true "dresses only" family. We had a phase where we threw out a lot of clothes like knit tops and shorts and started wearing mostly skirts/dresses unless we were kicking around with the animals outside or if we were at 4-H functions. Probably the low point in all this was the introduction of the culotte, and if you don't know what this piece of clothing is, thank your lucky stars. I think I did own a homemade culotte at one point, but avoided wearing it at all cost. We did also own modest swimsuits- these horrendous affairs pretty much put any interest I had in going swimming to rest for about 8 or 9 years. I'd like to think that my skin has grown thick enough that I'll share a few pictures to give you an idea. I guess I didn't ask my sisters first but I think they have thick skin, too...
Like a lot of things, my parents and my sisters and I have talked about that phase together and we've all moved on. And now I'm here, trying to make sense of what the whole thing is supposed to mean.
I talked to a bunch of people about this to see what they said. I talked to friends, relatives, married people, single people, girls, and guys. Here are some things I heard them saying:
I like it when girls look attractive. (this came from both a guy friend and a girl friend!)
Displaying your cleavage kind of says that you're trying to sell yourself.
Dress like a hooker if you want to be viewed like a hooker.
Modesty is helpful.
A kind girlfriend will dress modestly.
I think spaghetti strap tops are modest.
Someone who wants to dress modestly just will; it's not about wearing a skirt - it's about what's in your heart.
Modesty is being appropriate to the situation.
I want to raise my daughters to be appropriate but I also want to raise them to be able to make wise choices on their own.
I've been places in this world where showing my elbow was seductive.
I've also been places in this world where I felt unnecessarily frumpy in a one-piece swimsuit.
Where is the line?
I don't think there is a line, and to rule-followers this is a scary thing to say, but the truth is that rules don't give us answers; the answer lies in our attitudes.
The New Testament, believe it or not, has only one verse (one verse!) that specifically addresses modesty, 1 Timothy 2:9. It is very vague, and says that in church, women just need to be modest, decent and appropriate. And I think that's about as specific as we should answer the modestly question. As stated above, a lot of guys will be able to tell you what is pretty universally "not OK", but my brother in law also said most guys who don't want to keep their minds off sex will probably think inappropriate things no matter how much you wear (and this is why in some muslim countries, a woman with a burqua but with gold bracelets showing will still get crude attention)
So are spaghetti strap tops really modest? How about jeans? How about shorty-shorts?
How about you stop asking questions about what you can or can't wear, take a look at your culture, and say, "how do I want to present myself?" If you want to present yourself as a hooker, go ahead, just don't expect to be treated like someone running for president. If you want to present yourself as frump-girl, that's your choice, just don't expect to land many jobs as a department store model. If you'd rather be known for your brains and not your body, wearing a spaghetti strap top in the office probably won't help you with that.
Dressing for everyone else's standards is an impossible road. It's also impossible to walk down the street without being automatically labeled based on the clothes you wear.
So it's up to you! It's up to where the Lord has you right now! It's up to how you choose you want to present yourself! Perhaps some things I personally wear may be called immodest by certain groups of people, but I don't anticipate ever being mistaken for a hooker, and that is good enough for me.
Happy Sunday!
Karen
http://bighouseinthelittlewoodsblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/very-last-modesty-article-ever.html
But if you don't want to click, here's what I think about that hot topic of modesty (no pun intended!).
First, a quick explanation of where I used to be with modesty.
Those who were raised really conservatively will know what I mean when I talk about "dresses only". I wouldn't say our family was a true "dresses only" family. We had a phase where we threw out a lot of clothes like knit tops and shorts and started wearing mostly skirts/dresses unless we were kicking around with the animals outside or if we were at 4-H functions. Probably the low point in all this was the introduction of the culotte, and if you don't know what this piece of clothing is, thank your lucky stars. I think I did own a homemade culotte at one point, but avoided wearing it at all cost. We did also own modest swimsuits- these horrendous affairs pretty much put any interest I had in going swimming to rest for about 8 or 9 years. I'd like to think that my skin has grown thick enough that I'll share a few pictures to give you an idea. I guess I didn't ask my sisters first but I think they have thick skin, too...
This was when I was like 15 and had my hair cut for the very first time in my life. I secretly wanted to get a complete bob but this is as short as I was allowed to get it. Note tucked in shirt! Akkkk!
This was ice-skating for my 16th birthday party, and I'm basically wearing theme and variations on the above outfit. I loved that skirt because it was the closest thing to jeans a skirt could be. Notice the tucked-in shirt club!!! Tucked-inners unite!
I talked to a bunch of people about this to see what they said. I talked to friends, relatives, married people, single people, girls, and guys. Here are some things I heard them saying:
I like it when girls look attractive. (this came from both a guy friend and a girl friend!)
Displaying your cleavage kind of says that you're trying to sell yourself.
Dress like a hooker if you want to be viewed like a hooker.
Modesty is helpful.
A kind girlfriend will dress modestly.
I think spaghetti strap tops are modest.
Someone who wants to dress modestly just will; it's not about wearing a skirt - it's about what's in your heart.
Modesty is being appropriate to the situation.
I want to raise my daughters to be appropriate but I also want to raise them to be able to make wise choices on their own.
I've been places in this world where showing my elbow was seductive.
I've also been places in this world where I felt unnecessarily frumpy in a one-piece swimsuit.
Where is the line?
I don't think there is a line, and to rule-followers this is a scary thing to say, but the truth is that rules don't give us answers; the answer lies in our attitudes.
The New Testament, believe it or not, has only one verse (one verse!) that specifically addresses modesty, 1 Timothy 2:9. It is very vague, and says that in church, women just need to be modest, decent and appropriate. And I think that's about as specific as we should answer the modestly question. As stated above, a lot of guys will be able to tell you what is pretty universally "not OK", but my brother in law also said most guys who don't want to keep their minds off sex will probably think inappropriate things no matter how much you wear (and this is why in some muslim countries, a woman with a burqua but with gold bracelets showing will still get crude attention)
So are spaghetti strap tops really modest? How about jeans? How about shorty-shorts?
How about you stop asking questions about what you can or can't wear, take a look at your culture, and say, "how do I want to present myself?" If you want to present yourself as a hooker, go ahead, just don't expect to be treated like someone running for president. If you want to present yourself as frump-girl, that's your choice, just don't expect to land many jobs as a department store model. If you'd rather be known for your brains and not your body, wearing a spaghetti strap top in the office probably won't help you with that.
Dressing for everyone else's standards is an impossible road. It's also impossible to walk down the street without being automatically labeled based on the clothes you wear.
So it's up to you! It's up to where the Lord has you right now! It's up to how you choose you want to present yourself! Perhaps some things I personally wear may be called immodest by certain groups of people, but I don't anticipate ever being mistaken for a hooker, and that is good enough for me.
Happy Sunday!
Karen





